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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 24, 2008 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best and the Worst of the Grateful Dead


You don't have to play the whole song. Just play 2-3 minutes of the lovely, fluid jamming you hear in versions from 1973 (when it first showed up live)...use the 11/11/73 version from the forthcoming Winterland '73 boxed set, if you it up to and including his singing the opening verse, showcasing how sweet and strong his vocals were...

then play the 1977 version from 10/29/77 to reveal how the song still flourished, and he still sang with gusto....

then choose nearly any version from 1980 on to show how speeded up and sloppy the song became in comparison, how the vocals were quite weaker and the song was sung with less passion and care...

...then finish full circle with the recovery by using the 3/29/90 version found on "Without a Net", playing with Branford Marsalis--a complete rejuvenation and re-invention of the song and his commitment to it.

I think the progression of EYES in the time frame you're using fits perfectly with your thesis.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Mar 24, 2008 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best and the Worst of the Grateful Dead

Brilliant! I know that song very well over the years. I'm most familiar with it over the late 70's. I also agree that the 80's really chopped up that song maybe more on average than other years or decades. It was played faster, there were more dropped notes, and overall rather un-inspired. It really hurts to hear Jerry play a solo and miss 25% of the notes he wants to play. Plus hear the all cracked up voice as well.

Ok, I tried to get 11/11/73 and it's now off Archive because it's been released. I really don't want to spend $100 to buy the box set, but maybe soon enough I will. But not in time for this presentation. I think I'll have to go with another early version. On my iTunes I have from 1973: Feb 2, Feb 15, March 22, May 26, June 10, Sept 11, and Sept 17. I can get any other 1973 show from Archive (or any show off Archive for that matter.) So maybe I should start hunting them down.

Now, for your 1977 choice, I'm listening to it right now. If I were asked to pick an Eyes or two from 1977 I would have immediately gone with Swing 2/26/77 or Fox 5/18/77. The more I listen to all of 1977 which I do quite a lot, I'm first impressed with the overall quality and tightness that Swing gave. It was their first concert of the year and I think it's better than 5/7, 5/8, 5/9 (wouldn't that be a nice little boxset?), some of the other Winterland shows, or any other show for the most part. This version you write of is slower than most of the Eyes. The opening is good, average, but one of the solos in the middle is quite riveting. OK. So it shouldn't be a problem getting something from 1977.

Any 80's will do, especially 83 -> 86. I never listen to those shows. It's hard to listen to.

For the 90's. I remember there was a show that opened with Eyes. I also remember a run at Giant's stadium, Alpine Valley, and MSG. I think it shouldn't be too hard to find one. I'm not sure I have the "Without A Net" but it's possible I do.

Thank you, a wonderful suggestion! It's a song that isn't spacey, it has a definite melody, and it's SO PRETTY.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 24, 2008 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best and the Worst of the Grateful Dead

I think that 5/18/77 Fox Theater version is a great choice. I only mentioned 10/29/77 b/c it's a personal fave...I think you can't go wrong with nearly any '77 version to prove your point.

(Ditto any '73 version; you don't nec. need the 11/11/73 Winterland)

good luck with the presentation and let us know how it goes!